PRotocols unification ? RE: New Yahoo messenger with Pidgin client

David Balažic david.balazic at
Wed Jul 13 12:43:29 EDT 2016

In light of this, does anyone know any group, organization, effort or anything toward unification of IM protocols?
Having 5 (or even 10) different apps just to communicate with people is ridiculous.
(multi-protocol clients like pidgin help, but the problem still remains)

A quick google found just this old article from 2008: 

"Standardizing instant messaging protocols"
 Instant messaging's growth hasn't been as robust as many expected

David Balažic
Software Engineer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Support [mailto:support-bounces at] On Behalf Of
> pidgin at
> Sent: 13. July 2016 3:04
> To: eion at
> Cc: Pidgin Support List
> Subject: Re: New Yahoo messenger with Pidgin client [dkim]
> Hi Eion,
> Allow me to present an opposing view.
> The new Yahoo protocol is atrocious, there is no disputing that.
> However, many people will continue to use it due to its integration with
> Yahoo mail.
> Everybody who uses Yahoo's web-mail gets the "new" messenger integrated
> with it, just like Facebook embeds its chat in its website.  I personally know
> several people that do not want to run a separate IM client when they have
> instant messaging capabilities, however crappy, inside their email.
> I believe that Pidgin should support the protocols that people use to
> communicate, regardless of how "good" they are, and the fact is that Yahoo
> Messenger will continue to hold a large user base even after the change.  Do
> not assume that the most vocal users represent the majority.
> Check out the reviews on
> (sort by newest)
> There are quite a few of 4 and 5-star reviews for the new version amid the
> outrage.
> I chose Pidgin in order to be able to tell the people I wish to communicate
> with that I can do so no matter what client or platform they use, without
> requiring them to make any changes.
> Consider the following scenario:
> Alice chats with Bob on YIM.
> After the switch, Alice tries to convince Bob to move to another protocol.
> However, Bob also chats with Catherine, Dave and Eve; Catherine also chats
> with Frank, Gwen and Hannah, Dave also chats with...
> Convincing all of them to move, or to use several clients, may not be feasible
> I vote for adding support, preferably before the August 5th deadline, if
> possible.
> Best regards,
> Alex.
> On 12-07-2016 16:02, Eion Robb wrote:
> > Hi Arulraj,
> >
> > I've been looking over the new Yahoo but everyone seems to think it's
> > terrible, posting in their forums and user feedback pages about how
> > awful the new messenger is.
> >
> > The new messenger is a completely new client and protocol with the
> > word "yahoo" slapped on it and it seems to have no connection to the
> > old messenger (new buddy list, no message interop, no message
> > formatting, other loss of functionality)
> >
> > So my question is: is it worth it?
> >
> > Should we be writing support for a protocol that noone wants when
> > users are leaving en masse?
> >
> > Interested in your thoughts on the matter as most people I've heard
> > from about it are looking at alternative networks, rather than
> > sticking with Yahoo.
> >
> > Cheers, Eion
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