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Sat Nov 15 08:50:08 EST 2014
On 15/11/14 12:30, Thérèse LAPORTE wrote:
> I'm not sure to understand well ! I must wait for 2.10.11 version.
> Before last Monday, my msn contact list was connected. It disappeared
> since few days.
Microsoft changed the service at that time.
an approved client. Microsoft have never approved the use of any open
source clients, so Pidgin is not an approved client. This is enforced
by the clients identifying themselves to the service, which is checked
by the server. As an unsupported client, Microsoft has never given
Pidgin an identifier.
To get round this, Pidgin uses the identifier belonging to an old
Microsoft supplied client.
Although this is a breach of the terms of service, Microsoft have never
bothered to pursue this. However that version of the Microsoft client
belongs to a version of Windows for which all support has ceased, and
Microsoft has just removed its permission to access MSN.
Basically, if you do things that are against Microsoft's terms of
service, or use end of life Microsoft products, you do so at your own risk.
Although in the short term, changing Pidgin to pretend to be a later
Microsoft product will get round the block, Microsoft's policy, for some
time, has been to replace MSN by Skype, except in China, where the
encryption in Skype is unacceptable. There have been various dates
given for the withdrawal of MSN and several of them have passed, but
there will come a time when Microsoft finally turn it off.
Unfortunately, as running an IM service costs money and open source
clients can defeat the use of advertising to supply that money, if you
want an IM service that is going to work reliably, in the long term,
with open source clients, you will need to pay for the service. I'm not
sure that there really are any such services with enough users to be
attractive to most people, but if you are using IM for business
purposes, you should run your own, private, server.
> I updated my Pidgin from old version to 2.10.9. two weeks ago.
2.10.10 was announced on October 22nd, so it has been the current
version for more than two weeks.
Because Pidgin is not supported by MSN, Microsoft were under no
obligation to tell its developers that they were going to change the
service in a way that would break it.
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