elb at pidgin.im
Thu Nov 29 15:29:18 EST 2007
Gal Topper spake unto us the following wisdom:
> > This argument is popular. It may even be true for some people.
> > However, red/green colorblindness is the most common form of
> > colorblindness, and colorblindness afflicts somewhere around 10% of
> > men in Western countries (I have no figures for non-Western countries;
> > it may or may not be similar) (if "providing references" is in style,
> > I can provide some for this, as well). This isn't to say that red is
> > non-negotiable, but this is also a consideration, particularly when
> > the argument "red is more noticable" is brought up.
> The name "red/green colorblindness" is misleading. Had it really meant an
> inability to distinguish red from green, 10% of men would be incapable to
> drive through intersections with traffic lights.
> It's a lot more subtle than that really, and the red and green previously
> used in Pidgin were very clearly distinguishable (I'm colour blind, and I
> could see the difference just fine).
We discussed on the jabber conference that this was bound to get
Red/green colorblindness ranges from imperceptible without targeted
tests, to complete inability to distinguish reds and/or greens from
grayscales. That 10% figure includes *all* forms of colorblindness,
red/green and otherwise, from imperceptible outside of the
optometrist's office to total grayscale vision.
The point was not "oh, colorblindness exists, blue is better!", or
vice-versa, or anything even *similar*. It was that in any dimension
I can think of ("usability", personal preference, contrast with other
widget styles, etc.), there is no one set of colors on which everyone
will agree. The popular tactic of trotting out a third-party opinion
to seal the case (in this case, it was usability) just isn't going to
arrive at a solution that everyone likes, or that is defensible in
spite of that.
This just about *has* to be configurable, or we have to agree that a
particular suboptimal scheme is just plain here to stay. There will
be no sudden realization that an optimal scheme exists.
> Finch on the other hand, has a real
> problem<http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/3655>when it comes to colour
This, I don't understand. The finch man page clearly explains how to
change these colors. (Search for [colors] and [colorpairs].)
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils]. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
-- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764
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